Old and Busted: Sayin' No to Torture - New Hotness: Outsourcing our Wetwork

Know what would be funny? If, in the whole debate over whether Indian programmers are as good as American programmers, and whether Chinese steelworkers are stealing good American jobs, we ended up outsourcing our torturers!

Long-departed and much-missed Obsidian Wings coblogger Elizabeth checks back in with a notice that this may be about to happen. In the bill generated by the 9/11 Commission Report, and sponsored by Dennis Hastert is a provision that would legalize "extraordinary rendition." This is a process by which terror suspects-- suspects, not convicts (not that such would be better)-- would be eligible for extradition to nations where the laws and mores against torture are, shall we say, decidedly more sanguine.

The Republican leadership of Congress is attempting to legalize extraordinary rendition. "Extraordinary rendition" is the euphemism we use for sending terrorism suspects to countries that practice torture for interrogation. As one intelligence official described it in the Washington Post, "We don't kick the sh*t out of them. We send them to other countries so they can kick the sh*t out of them.”

The best known example of this is the case of Maher Arar. Arar, a Canadian citizen, was deported to Syria from JFK airport. In Syria he was beaten with electrical cables for two weeks, and then imprisoned in an underground cell for the better part of a year. Arar is probably innocent of any connection to terrorism.

As it stands now, "extraordinary rendition" is a clear violation of international law--specifically, the U.N. Convention Against Torture and Other Cruel, Degrading and Inhuman Treatment. U.S. law is less clear. We signed and ratified the Convention Against Torture, but we ratified it with some reservations. They might create a loophole that allows us to send a prisoner to Egypt or Syria or Jordan if we get "assurances" that they will not torture a prisoner--even if these assurances are false and we know they are false.

Here's a bit of a press release from Cong. Ed Markey's (D-MA) office, who is sponsoring a counter-bill (H.R. 1674): :

The provision Rep. Markey referred to is contained in Section 3032 and 3033 of H.R. 10, the "9/11 Recommendations Implementation Act of 2004," introduced by House Speaker Dennis Hastert (R-IL). The provision would require the Secretary of Homeland Security to issue new regulations to exclude from the protection of the U.N. Convention Against Torture and Other Forms of Cruel, Inhuman, or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, any suspected terrorist - thereby allowing them to be deported or transferred to a country that may engage in torture. The provision would put the burden of proof on the person being deported or rendered to establish "by clear and convincing evidence that he or she would be tortured," would bar the courts from having jurisdiction to review the Secretary's regulations, and would free the Secretary to deport or remove terrorist suspects to any country in the world at will - even countries other than the person's home country or the country in which they were born. The provision would also apply retroactively.

Says Elizabeth, and rightly:

There is no possible way for a suspect being detained in secret to prove by "clear and convincing evidence" that he will be tortured if he is deported--especially when he may be deported to a country where has never been, and when the officials who want to deport him serve as judge, jury and executioner, and when there is never any judicial review. This bill will make what happened to Maher Arar perfectly legal, and guarantee that it will happen again.

I don't like to post "Go Read!" items, but this is one of those. Go read, then write your Congressman.

Alternatively, make a game of trying to convince me that this whole thing is a good idea. It won't work, but if it makes you feel good, what the heck.

Posted by Johno Johno on   |   § 2

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1

Well, how else are we going to get our money's worth out of the dictators we are supporting?

2

Getting tough on terrorism does not require cattleprods to be applied to genitals, or any other of the charming techniques that have been developed over the centuries. This bill is the result of the mistaken belief that torture is an effective method of interrogation. If you believe that to be true, then our restrictions on torture seem to be an impediment to getting good intelligence. Dodging those restrictions then becomes a sneaky way to get intelligence we need to fight the bad guys.

In the long run, you can get anyone to say or sign anything, just to make the pain stop. (That American POWS held out so long in N. Vietnam is a testament to their bravery.) But that is not useful information. It isn't even data. Kindler, gentler methods of interrogation are more likely to develop actual usable intelligence, and quicker, too. Carrots work better than sticks, generally speaking.

I'm willing to extend, provisionally, the benefit of the doubt to Hastert and whoever else supported this bill. They may be trying to ensure that we will get the info we need to protect American lives. But it is wrong both on moral and expedience grounds.

The only time torture might ever be morally acceptable is in a situation where immediate intelligence is needed to save many lives - say, someone knows where the nuke is, and it will go off in hours. But even in that case, the person doing the torture should still be prosecuted, even when we all benefit from the intelligence gained in the process.

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