More on Jobs
Dean Esmay has another post on the whole jobs thingy. He excerpts a bit from a New York Times article:
The sharpest contrast can be seen by looking at the Labor Department's household survey, which shows a record high level of total employment. This survey reported an employment level of 138.3 million as of March - 600,000 more working Americans since President Bush took office in 2001.
Since the recession ended in November 2001, the payroll survey has reported 323,000 fewer payroll jobs, but the household survey has found 1.9 million more overall jobs. Common sense tells us that payroll jobs aren't the end-all, be-all of jobs in the new economy. Economists reflexively like payroll data because it has a bigger sample, but quantity doesn't always ensure quality.
An even bigger problem with the payroll survey is the evolution of what constitutes work. We can think of the payroll survey as counting all workers at traditional firms, plus some workers at start-up companies who have payroll records. But the payroll survey doesn't count individuals who are self-employed - despite the fact that their ranks have surged by at least 650,000 in just two years.
To which I would add this bit:
The payroll survey counts jobs, not workers. But counting payroll jobs is a questionable way of measuring America's evolving work force, especially in light of declining job turnover. The payroll survey's biggest problem is that it systematically double counts workers when they change jobs. Since somewhere between 2 percent and 3 percent of the work force changes employers every month, payrolls tend to be noisy. The illusion of lost jobs in recent years occurred because job turnover declined after 2000, first with the recession, then even more sharply after 9/11. As a result, 1 million jobs have been artificially "lost" in the payroll survey since 2001.
Despite last month's jobs surge, the payroll survey remains stubbornly out of whack with other economic indicators, even other labor indicators. Unemployment has been very low and is now near what economists call a "natural" rate. Real earnings rose by 3 percent over the last three years. Jobless claims are 10 percent below their historical average, and that's without adjusting for population.
Dean also links to this interesting post from soundfury, who makes the argument that except for the low payroll survey reports, the economy is better in every respect than in 1996, just before the tech bubble started inflating. Something to keep in mind, and bad news for Kerry.
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Looks like I need to write a
Looks like I need to write a more comprehensive post on how to interpret economic statistics. Did you even READ the Kane article Esmay links? What a load of horsecrap. Kane goes on and on about a "new definition" of a job. What the hell is that supposed to be? Anything you do between the time you wake up and the time you go to sleep? Does breathing qualify as a "job" in the new GOP economy? Apparently it does.
Basic adjustment for population growth seems to be beyond the GOP at the moment. To be honest, I don't think that it's beyond them; but I can't think of a more charitable reason they leave it out of their calculations.
The most important employment statistics are these:
- total population
- total employable population
- fine-grained histrogram of workers, by age
- adjusted gross income, averages, by income band, via IRS
- sector employment level analysis
- employment to population ratio
I'll attempt a proper analysis of recent IRS and BLS data. I don't take the word of Heritage Foundation economic commenters.
How often do they change the
How often do they change the methodology used for this? If it changes often, then straight comparisons are meaningless. Likewise, if it's been done the same way for some time and was changed, then the question is why was the change made? I don't automatically think someone was cooking the stats, because there are legitimate reasons for change. Wish I knew more about statistics and economics.
There's a book out there
There's a book out there called Economics Explained. We used to pass it out at Wharton to the visiting executives, to help refresh their long-forgotten Econ 101 and 102 courses. Ted, you might like it.
Of course, I think there's also a book called How to Lie with Statistics too.
My favorite quote from economics in college is "All other things being equal..." Which, of course, is almost always a theoretical condition which is never true.
Thanks for the suggestions,
Thanks for the suggestions, MG. My favorite quote was "Assume a spherical cow..."